Great! You are my hero. Fading is Ok. Quitting out of principle is heroic. have a great new life!
I like Marvin's idea
my wife and i planned on fading but the elders now want a shepherding call and we are just done.
i know that many play the game to try to stay in, but i'm not a game player and neither is my wife.
our families already shun us because we reached out to a disfellowshipped family member.
Great! You are my hero. Fading is Ok. Quitting out of principle is heroic. have a great new life!
I like Marvin's idea
i have been exchanging emails with my brother who is a jw.
i tried to convince him to watch the hearings of the royal commission, but he sent me a long list of reasons why he didn't trust "la obra teatral" (theater) and therefore he wouldn't watch anything.
he went on a rant of persecution stories in australia and how various governments would try to impede the preaching work.
fahrvegnugen,
I hate to admit it, but you are right. Nothing against you, I just naively thought that, given the mountains of evidence against the WT regarding many subjects, I would be able to talk him out of his devotion to WT. He and his wife are actually very happy in the Org and I am afraid that they can not conceive life without mother org.
i just found these vidoes on youtube, maybe you have seen them already, but i thought i would share.
these canadian kids for me are courageous and inspiring.
more excellent public examples of non vitrial apostate awakening.
historic investigation of jws latest videos are on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtxakzq0ity&feature=youtu.be.
Watchtower-free
I read the transcript and justice McClelland is not saying JW's procedures are the worst. He is saying they have different flaws from the flaws of others. I think you are misreading the context, even the text itself.
i have been exchanging emails with my brother who is a jw.
i tried to convince him to watch the hearings of the royal commission, but he sent me a long list of reasons why he didn't trust "la obra teatral" (theater) and therefore he wouldn't watch anything.
he went on a rant of persecution stories in australia and how various governments would try to impede the preaching work.
I need help. I have been exchanging emails with my brother who is a JW. I tried to convince him to watch the hearings of the Royal Commission, but he sent me a long list of reasons why he didn't trust "la obra teatral" (theater) and therefore he wouldn't watch anything. He went on a rant of persecution stories in Australia and how various governments would try to impede the preaching work. Lots of crazy stuff. The one that called my attention the most is that JW's were accused in America of being Russian spies, and the rest of the world accused them of being American spies.
Where did that come from? Is that an urban legend made up by a JW or is it from the WT?
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
the following is an exchange of 3 emails between an elder in my wife's congregation and me.
it's a hispanic congregation in los angeles area:.
is it a cult or not??.
Vidiot,
No apology needed, I just missed the joke and really had no idea what to make of your comment.
the following is an exchange of 3 emails between an elder in my wife's congregation and me.
it's a hispanic congregation in los angeles area:.
is it a cult or not??.
Vidiot,
Mexico? what's that about. I just happen to be Mexican and the other guy is Hispanic from an Island in the Caribbean that has been in the news lately.
Regarding Mexico, it's possible that Mexico takes a look into this issue. There are many JW's, 700k maybe? They tend to have unrestrained libidos and need a diversion from the Chapo Guzman debacle.
the following is an exchange of 3 emails between an elder in my wife's congregation and me.
it's a hispanic congregation in los angeles area:.
is it a cult or not??.
There's more. I called him incompetent in the previous email, and he too umbrage. Here's the latest:
No, Felipe, I am not an incompetent elder. I may be very incompetent in many things, but being an elder is not one of them.
I fear the real problem is that you have decided to find something
against the Witnesses, for reasons I have stated before, and your biases
are clouding your judgement.
And You are being very unfair to us, to yourself and to Truth itself.
Elder
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Dear Elder
Its not just me. Its the Australian government and many tribunals and news organizations around the world. And I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. But, oh well it is the system of Satan. I am sure Satan is the one giving the incriminating responses to the elders in the hearings and is making me read incriminating information in the mountain of documents produced by the Watchtower. It seems that Satan has more persuasive powers than the holy spirit that selected these Australian elders.
Dont missthe the live streaming today at 6 or 7 our time. It's better than reality tv, better than movies of good vs. evil. Dont miss it.
Felipe
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No, of course not.
But you are being duped.
I feel sorry for you, Felipe, honestly.
You really need to wisen up before it's too late.
For my part, I am not going to follow your lead.
You've really taken the wrong road, and there's no one to blame but yourself.
Elder
the following is an exchange of 3 emails between an elder in my wife's congregation and me.
it's a hispanic congregation in los angeles area:.
is it a cult or not??.